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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

393. The Makings of A Great Leader | The Honourable Tony Abbott

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Australian journalist and former prime minister, the Honourable Tony Abbott. They discuss Australia’s role on the world stage, the problems facing their economy and culture, how the quasi-cult of carbon threatens the developing world, why new religions propagate where faith has been abdicated, and the looming threat of war as China destabilizes while Putin pushes forward against Ukraine. Tony Abbott was elected prime minister by the Australian people on September 7, 2013, and served for two years. In that time, the carbon tax and mining tax were repealed, free trade agreements were finalized with China, Japan and Korea; the people smuggling trade from Indonesia to Australia were halted, and Australia became the second largest military contributor to the US-led campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq. Currently, he is a director of the Ramsay Centre for Western Civilisation, serves on the council of the Australian War Memorial, and is an adviser to the UK Board of Trade. He’s patron to several charities, including Soldier On, the International Sports Promotion Society, and Worldwide Support for Development. - Links - For The Honourable Tony Abbott Website https://tonyabbott.com.au/ On X https://twitter.com/hontonyabbott?lang=en

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0:00.0

Hello everyone watching and listening. Today I'm speaking with

0:18.5

Australian journalist and former Prime Minister the Honorable Tony Abbott.

0:23.3

We met before once in Australia, and this will be a follow-up to that.

0:27.8

We discuss Australia's role on the world stage, the problems facing the Australian economy and culture, the broader problems that face the

0:36.0

west, how the quasi-cult of carbon threatens, in particular the poor in the developing world,

0:43.0

why new religions propagate where traditional faith

0:46.0

has been abdicated, and the looming threat of war

0:50.0

as China destabilizes, and Putin pushes forward against Ukraine.

0:55.7

We also discuss our joint involvement in the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship,

1:00.6

the Arc, which is a new venture grounded in London, designed to put forward a positive

1:07.2

vision of the future that everyone could, in principle, be on board with voluntarily.

1:14.0

So Mr Abbott, let's start by talking about Australia as a whole.

1:20.0

I mean, what role do you think Australia plays on the international front now?

1:27.0

Like, how do you think Australia should be conceptualised by people outside of the country?

1:32.0

Well, Jordan, I think Australia is one of those wonderful countries, which is big enough to be

1:39.2

interesting and significant, but not so big as to be intimidating and three and no one anywhere in the world who has a grievance against us.

1:55.0

And that's not true of so many other countries.

1:57.5

You think of the United States, you think of Britain, you think of France, you think of

2:01.8

Germany, you think of Italy, you think of Russia, you think of France you think of Germany you think of Italy you think of Russia you think of

2:05.2

China there are grievances that different countries have against all of those

2:11.1

countries they're all of those countries have great strengths as well.

2:15.0

But Australia is one of those happy places

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