Where we normally think of codependency as someone in a relationship with a person who's an addict

and has a behavior that's undesirable, the majority of us actually compromise ourselves

in order to keep people close. And although it could present and look like

Kylie is the one who didn't have her poop in a group, you know, in being ready to choose the relationship.

I was actively choosing to continue to be in a relationship with someone who wasn't fully

choosing me.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mark Gross podcast.

Today on this solo episode, it is an espresso shot of relational awareness. This is a conversation

that Kylie and I share in our audiobook from the book, Liberated Love, How to Release

Co-Dependent Patterns, and create the love you desire. At the end of every chapter in the

book, we have a conversation that's unscripted, That's about whatever we cover in the chapter.

In this chapter, we discuss more specifically the pattern of codependency, the definition we explore,

and also how this shows up in our interpersonal relationships.

When you see the dynamic of one person being maybe more the pursuer or what we might call anxiously attached

and the other person being more the distancer, the person who's ambivalent or unsure or running from the commitment as the other one runs towards commitment.

This pattern we dive more deeply into. In the conversation about relationship, we tend to villainize the ambivalent one or the distancer. And so we give a little more

context to that pattern and how both people can take responsibility in their relationships to change

their life. So if you love this conversation, please share the episode and also hit that

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If you want to hear more about the specific subject we're covering, please pick up the book.

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books, pick up the audiobook, liberated love, much love. All right, let's dive deep into this

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