From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 392, today's show is brought to you by Text Expander,

Capital One, Zock-Dock, and Member Four. My name is Mike Hurley. I'm joined by Jason Snow. Hi,

Jason Snow. Happy birthday, Mike Hurley. Thank you very much, Jason. It's very kind of

you to say it is in fact my birthday today, as we're recording this, because that's just

how the world moves. Yes, if you listen to this a different day, it's not his birthday

anymore. So sorry, you missed out. No, unless you just everybody decides to like observe

my birthday at the time when they listen to this. Upgrade 392? Yeah, it's always your

birthday in this episode. Uh-huh. I have a question. Hashtag Snow Talk question from

Zach? Zach wants to know Jason, do you use the Genie or Scale effect when you minimize

windows on the Mac? I was actually surprised today. I don't know why to surprise me, because

I was checking this, that you choose between one or the other. That was kind of a thought

to me or I was like, oh, isn't that just one where there isn't an animation? And the answer

is no, which one do you use? Genie or Scale? So this is a classic OS X lore. This is that

thing where Steve Jobs demoed the Genie effect and he did it like 10 times and he held down

the key, the option key to make it go slow so you could see how cool it was. And um, that's

great. And then everybody else was like, uh, it's kind of a lot. How about just a simple

scale effect and they put that in there as an option. It's like, you can choose the scale

effect. I choose the scale effect. I don't like the Genie effect. I agree with the people

who said it's kind of showy and, and it's unnecessary. I rarely see this effect regardless

because I very rarely am minimizing a window into the dock on my Mac. But if I, if I were

to do that, uh, I would see the scale effect. I also, I just want to say this is like such

a classic Apple bit of, of weird whimsy. And I'm not sure whether this was like, I think

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