391: Why Mental Health Workers Became the Black Sheep of the 21st Century Church

Latter Day Struggles

Valerie Hamaker

Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Mental Health

4.5 • 859 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Send us a Positive Review! In this episode of Latter Day Struggles, Valerie and guest Maxine Hanks dive into the complexities of reform and personal wellness within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. This fascinating conversation explores the first-hand experience of two women whose influential work spans a half-century in the LDS spotlight. With this time-span as a reference point, they discuss how the focus of institutional reprimand and control has shifted from scholars to me...

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0:00.0	As we move into this season of giving, we invite you to support the healing work happening here at
0:04.9	Latter-day Struggles. Our podcast is a proud partner of the Faith Journey Foundation, a 501
0:10.1	C3 nonprofit, meaning every contribution you make is fully tax deductible. Your gift goes entirely
0:16.5	towards scholarships that open full access to our premium content, helping us expand the reach
0:22.0	of this healing work.
0:23.6	This is your opportunity to invest in integrity-based, psychologically informed spiritual care
0:28.6	and to stand with both the providers and the recipients of this work within the LDS
0:33.2	Faith Expansion Community.
0:35.2	Give today at latterday struggles.com.
0:37.6	Hello, everyone. Welcome to Latterday Struggles. This is your host, Valerie. I am here for a
0:53.4	part two. Oh, gosh, we had a lovely conversation. Just this part one that Maxine and I just did. And we are so excited to be back here again for us just sort of just to finish the conversation off, I guess. So welcome, Maxine. How are you?
1:09.2	I'm good. I always love discussing these issues with you because I think
1:13.4	between the two of us, we bring out a lot of crucial tensions and points that I think a lot of
1:21.7	listeners are kind of searching for help with. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think that it's fascinating and such a,
1:31.6	I don't know, I feel it's kind of a privilege, honestly, that I am doing the work that I'm doing
1:37.0	and I live in a time where I get to rub shoulders with people like yourself and others who are so formative in the beautiful,
1:48.0	sacred reform, or you could call it the shadow work here in the Church of Jesus Christ of
1:53.8	Latter-day Saints, as we sort of talked about last time. We both recognized from very early on in our work that the work that we're doing is
2:04.5	sacred and it's shadow work. It's work that endeavors to heal and make our system as whole
2:14.1	and healthy as it can be. And that's really what this conversation's about as well. And today,
2:18.9	this sort of second half of, I kind of think of this as one big long conversation divided into two
2:24.1	parts. But today's focus is actually going to be looking at these two different eras of time. In some
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