Hello and welcome to best case worst case this is Jim Clemente retired FBI profile or former

New York City prosecutor and writer producer of criminal minds and Francie is still in France

like what's wrong with her? Anyway, she's going to be coming back soon and

rejoining but while she's away you know I get to say and do whatever I want and today I wanted to have one of my best

friends in the world on my podcast and that is...

It's me Bob Ruff from the Truth and Justice podcast.

That's great.

Well, we're doing something crazy today, just crazy, and it's going to be fun and important. So just put on your seatbelts and get ready for a wild ride because this is a this is a really crazy case and really

important work that Bob's doing but we'll get into that in just a minute. I got a

call from Bob and he asked me for a favor and you know Bob doesn't

just ask for a favor you know any time willy-nilly whatever and so I said sure whatever it is and he asked me if we could do sort of a

cross episode where we put his premiere episode for season 15 on the real crime profile feed and it's

also on the best case worst case feed.

So Bob you want to tell us a little bit about the case and why you wanted it out there on real crime profile and best case, worst case?

Yeah, I mean, first of all, all I want to thank you for doing it and as you said I don't I try not to ask for too many favors and for anyone and number 15 seasons in and I've never done this before but when we we put together the the season premiere for season 15

I was real proud of the work we did. I'm actually actually put it together with two of my high school students. I teach a broadcast journalism

class at our local high school. I contracted one of them to create all the

music who just graduated and then hired one who works as my head researcher and and co-producer.

And so we put this episode together and it just,

it's a message that I think needs to be heard

and that's why what you guys are gonna hear here on the feed

is the full episode.

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