Marshall here. Welcome back to The Realignment.

My guest today is Larry Kramer, president of the William and Flora Hewitt Foundation,

one of the biggest institutions supporting individuals and organizations,

including Fortis Glowder of this podcast,

who are seeking to promote a new economic policy consensus

as we move on from the left and right neo-liberal slash market-oriented approaches

from the 1980s and 1990s.

The term neo-liberalism gets thrown around a lot,

but the use of it to understand it beyond the buzzword is that in the 1980s,

especially in the UK and the United States,

there were a wide variety of issues from stack-flation

to exhaustion of the New Deal and Green Society programs

to globalization in the end of the Cold War,

combined with the Democratic Party of Bill Quentin,

coming to power by rejecting government and declaring the era of big government itself

was over.

Not all of the economic policies or political approaches were wrong on their merits

or indefensible today.

Instead, the key takeaway is these are not the proper approaches

or frame slash paradigms for approaching the challenges we face

in the year 2023,

and that we spend a lot of time covering on this show.

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