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#391 Busting the Biggest Myths About Complementarianism | Denny Burk

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Alisa Childers

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 5.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Was Phoebe the first female preacher? Was Junia an apostle? Can women preach, teach, or host Christian podcasts?

These questions are fueling some of the biggest debates in evangelicalism today.

In this episode, Denny Burk joins me to separate biblical complementarianism from the caricatures.

We tackle the Al Mohler controversy, the real meaning of 1 Timothy 2, whether Phoebe preached Romans, whether Junia was an apostle, and how Christians should think about women in ministry without going beyond—or falling short of—what Scripture teaches.

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0:00.0

What are the biblical parameters for women in ministry? Is it wrong for a woman to have a podcast?

0:16.0

Is it wrong for a woman to preach a sermon if she's doing so under the authority of the male church elders.

0:22.8

In the first century church was Phoebe, a female preacher, who exposited Paul's letters

0:28.0

at his request. Was Junia a female apostle? We're talking about all of it today in this episode

0:34.3

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0:46.1

So today's guest is Denny Burke, the author of a new book called Mere Complementarianism,

0:51.6

Male and Female in the Image of God. I wanted to have this conversation with

0:55.8

Denny because he is a perfect person to talk about all of these topics with. He's the professor

1:00.8

of biblical studies at Boyce College, and he serves as the associate pastor at Kenwood Baptist Church

1:06.9

and is president of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. So in today's episode,

1:12.5

we are going to talk about common questions that surround the egalitarian, complementarian debate,

1:18.2

how what the Bible says works itself out in the practical, which is kind of a complicated

1:23.5

question, like, is it okay for a woman to have a podcast? Is it okay for a woman to go on a

1:29.4

church-sanctioned podcast? Is it okay for a woman to go on a church-sanctioned podcast whose

1:35.1

intended goal is to exposit the Sunday sermon? I mean, it gets complicated, but we're going to talk

1:40.6

about the recent controversy also over Al Mueller's proposed amendment for the SBC to tighten up their stance on women preaching in Sunday services. We're getting into all the things, so I'll take you now to Denny Burke. Well, Denny Burke, always a pleasure to have you on the show. You've got a new book that is just coming out in a couple of days. I really want to encourage everybody to check that out. You can pre-order it now. Coming out in just a couple of days,

2:05.2

and it is called mere complementarianism. And this is such an important topic right now because

2:10.2

I don't know if you've noticed this, Denny, but things out there in social media land are a little

2:15.3

spicy on this topic. It is, I mean, you have people running the

2:19.5

gamut from really radical extremes on both sides and everywhere in the middle. And so I love this

2:25.8

phrase, mere complementarianism. Talk a little bit about that phrase and why you decided to write this

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