In today's episode, Tim engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Myron Penner about the complexities of empathy, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism. They explore the idea of toxic empathy, its implications for social justice, and the theological frameworks that shape our understanding of empathy. Myron's Website | Myronapenner.com Highlights: 01:57 Exploring the Concept of Toxic Empathy 19:53 Empathy in the Context of Immigration and Nationalism 27:30 The Intersection of Faith, Law, and Morality 43:07 Navigating Two Realities in Society ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices