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39: The No Fly List Is A Nightmare

Rebuttal

Rebmasel

True Crime

51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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(WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) The FBI threatens to put innocent people on the No Fly List unless they agree to become unpaid FBI informants spying on their (also innocent) communities. Why? Because the FBI pretty much guarantees that random, erroneous, overinclusive, islamophobic nominations to the No Fly List will be approved, and since the process is cloaked in secrecy, there wasn't a clear way to stop them. Until now. Fikre v. FBI (2013) and Tanzin v. Tanvir (2020) are only two of many cases challenging the No Fly List’s erroneous overinclusion and the FBI’s islamophobia. Learn about more: https://www.aclu.org/cases/kashem-et-al-v-barr-et-al-aclu-challenge-government-no-fly-list https://www.aclu.org/cases/chebli-v-kable-lawsuit-challenging-placement-no-fly-list Follow @RebuttalPod on Instagram and Twitter! Follow @Rebmasel on TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter! *** 0:00 - Intro 1:12 - Case begins 4:11 - YONAS FIKRE v. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (2013) (SCOTUS Opinion 2024) 4:35 - The FBI threatens Muslim citizens with the No Fly List 9:16 - SCOTUS does something correct for once 12:31 - WHAT IS THE NO FLY LIST? 15:02 - What CAN’T you do on the No Fly List? 15:54 - Everything goes back to 9/11, y’all 21:05 - OPAQUE, OVER-INCLUSIVE, INACCURATE 23:00 - Islamophobia in our FBI (pretends to be shocked) 23:27 - Kyle Rittenhouse, Jan 6ers, etc. = "white Christians" = not on the No Fly List...?! 30:26 - Watchlists are…QUOTAS?! 31:51 - WHAT????????!!!!!!! 36:04 - How can we respect the Watch Lists?! 39:32 - More cases pending (like TANZIN V. TANVIR (2020)) 42:20 - REB’S REBUTTAL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the rebuttal podcast where we break down case law,

0:35.4

calamity and chaos in the legal field. I'm Brett Maisel.

0:39.6

If y'all didn't know, I'm your host, if you were curious. And we are back with another episode,

0:46.8

another refreshment, another distraction from the world around us, specifically the United States of America. This episode, you are going

0:58.5

to say, Reb, didn't you just talk about airplanes and have a episode about someone stealing a

1:05.0

fucking airplane and getting away with it? Of course. But that's the fun of this show,

1:09.9

is I can do whatever the hell that I want. And I want to talk

1:14.1

to you guys today about the no fly list, which is yes, related to planes, but also completely

1:20.8

fucking different than the case that I talked about last time. So I don't want to fucking hear it.

1:24.5

Okay. Me yelling at the people who complain when literally no one ever

1:28.2

complains about the things that I choose to talk about because you guys are great. And you think

1:32.4

things are interesting because we've found each other. I have finally found people who get it,

1:37.1

who are interested in the things that I'm interested in. And I love geeking out with y'all.

1:41.0

I'm just going to jump right into it, all right? Imagine arriving at the

1:44.5

airport and checking in at the ticketing booth. You tell the ticketing agent, your name, your flight

1:50.0

number, and show the agent your identification. The agent enters the information into the terminal,

1:55.9

and a look of shock appears on their face. While other passengers are waiting behind you, the agent calls for security

2:02.5

and mentions loudly in front of the other passengers that you are denied from boarding the plane.

2:09.4

Now imagine that you are a famous United States senator arriving from a political convention,

2:14.3

and the ticketing agent tells you that you cannot board the plane

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