I hope I've made you feel bad, Stephen.

Mmm, not very.

Hi!

I'm Antela Duckworth.

I'm Stephen Dubner.

And you're listening to no stupid questions.

Today on the show is cheating purely a moral decision.

I'd be the guy who, when I was writing in the test...

You would put your elbow, you know that move?

Also, what's better to keep learning new skills

or to go deep on what you're good at?

She's just been poaching one pair after the other.

Stephen, I was talking to my daughter Lucy the other day.

And I'm very worried because she was telling me

that cheating is epidemic right now.

Because of virtual education?

Yeah, students are at home taking their calculus exams.

So I'm wondering, is this something that you have

any personal experience with?

Have you ever cheated, for example, on a calculus test

or anything else you admit to on the air?

Well, back when I was a young man,

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