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Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, welcome back to Cult Leader. I'm your Cult Leader Spencer Henry. If you're new here, Cult Leader is a podcast about cult, crime, stuff.

What's up you guys? I missed you this last week. It's just the craziest week out work last week. I had so much going on, but I'm here about to give you a spooky good time. Are you ready?

Well, hold on because I have an announcement. So I get asked a lot about meat ingredients or touring. If I'll ever do that. So on October 28th, I'm going to be doing my first ever live recording of Cult Leader.

So if you want to hear all the awful stuff that I don't edit out and meet me, then clear your fucking schedule, San Francisco. Details are still being finalized, but it's in the works in what better time than Halloween week.

Okay, now let's talk about some spooky stuff because this week we're covering a cult that has always given me the TVGBs. It's the children of thunder.

Back at it again with the really good sound effects. So the cult was started by a rude dude, Glenn Helter. And there's going to be several what the Fox are out this episode. So brace yourself.

Okay, here's the basic need to know. Glenn was born on July 26th, 1970 to Jerry and karma Helzer. He had a younger sister Heather and a little brother named Justin.

The family grew up primarily in Martinez, California about an hour out from San Francisco and about 20 minutes from where I grew up in Walnut Creek. To my knowledge, it doesn't seem like the Helzer's childhood had any major term oils.

They were devout Mormons and a lot of their social upbringing was based on the religion's teachings. According to the family and friends that were around the family at the time, they seemed really normal.

Seems like their childhood was pretty mundane. Nothing to talk about. Glenn, who went by his middle name Taylor, I'm going to keep referring to him as Glenn just for the sake of the story, was referred to as charming. He was the all-star older brother outgoing.

Friendly, he liked to lead by example. His younger brother Justin was pretty much the opposite. Much more of an introvert. He blessed, however, on his high school wrestling team and he was one of the youth leaders at the church the family attended.

Though Justin was pretty much preoccupied with his own activities. He still envied his elder brother Glenn in a lot of ways. But it was like the normal younger brother looking up to older brother type of situation.

After they graduated from Ignatio Valley High School in Walnut Creek, the boys did as most young Mormons do. They embarked on this two year mission for their church.

Glenn ended up going to Brazil while Justin did his in Texas. Once the brothers got back to California, they both kind of re-assimulated themselves with the real world. Both of them got jobs pretty quickly.

Justin took a job as a cable installer and Glenn began working as a stockbroker in San Francisco at Morgan Stanley.

Around this time Glenn started dating a nice young woman named Anne and the pair get married in 1993 and subsequently had two daughters together.

While the mundane life works for some, that just wasn't the case for Glenn. He separated from Anne three years later because Glenn wanted to explore life outside of being so constricted by his religion.

If you think about it, he grew up in a really confined space there. He cracked under the pressure of trying to be this perfect husband, father, church girl, and he wanted to rebel. It's not uncommon.

I think a lot of people who grew up in really constricted environments tend to act out at some point. If you even think about people who are just raised with like helicopter parents who never let them do anything, don't let them have the normal exposure that they would normally have.

I think either whether it's high school, college, or like Glenn's age when shit gets too real, that they tend to want to act out.

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