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The Talk Show With John Gruber

389: ‘Two-Legged Stool’, With Gabe Rivera

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2023

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Gabe Rivera, founder of the indispensable news aggregator Techmeme, joins the show to talk about the state of news and social media.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Gabe this is a little weird because part of my checklist before I start recording an

0:06.8

episode of this show because I usually disappear for anywhere from two hours to two hours

0:12.3

plus while recording the show is before I start I check tech meme to make sugar

0:18.8

No news has broken

0:21.4

Yeah, and I feel like I don't have to do it.

0:25.0

I can just ask you.

0:26.0

Gabe, is there any breaking news on tech meme that we should talk about?

0:30.6

Keeping track of it.

0:31.6

Today was a big day for Microsoft, but I don't remember anything

0:34.7

too big in the past few minutes. I presume because I mention it on Derek Fireball frequently I'd tell anybody who would ask but you know what a

0:45.8

pillar tech meme is of my media diet at least but can you talk about I mean just for

0:51.6

anybody who doesn't know you're here to talk about it. When did you start tech meme? What is tech meme? How does it work?

0:59.0

Those are some big questions. Okay, so well, thanks for calling it a pillar. When we do what we do to keep it going every day, we keep people like you in mind, like writers who are like in the know and need to have a high level view of the industry and like tech execs and people like that. So as long as we're relevant to you guys,

1:24.1

we're doing our job.

1:25.4

How did it get started?

1:27.3

So let's see, I've always been like

1:31.2

messing with news aggregators and like little things to get news from

1:35.0

websites because I've always been interested in news so back in the early

1:39.5

a lot I've seen the the rise of blogging.

1:43.0

The bloggers have a good grasp of what's interesting and what's trending.

1:48.0

And if you just follow a bunch of blogs and see what they're looking to, could see what's important so I just I

1:55.0

started writing like a little aggregator that would see what are the news stories

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