Nine's when I first started noticing some knee problems. By 12, it was chronic.

Then taking over-the-counter anti-inflammatories. I was taken way too much.

Even to push a sled forward is amazing. Every workout for the lower body had sled.

That eccentric loading with the slam board, I think, was the most helpful for me.

It's time to sit down, keep it real and cut the bullshit.

Welcome to Table Talk.

Ben Patrick, it's great to have you out here.

I've been looking forward to this for a long time. We just shot some extra content, which posted before this.

And you married the concepts of Louis with Charles Poliquin.

Yep.

And you noted that Charles came out, you know, to West Side Barbell, which he did.

A couple of stories leading up to this is Louis and Charles spoke at a couple of the same

conferences that I was at with them.

And I remember the first one was,

Louis and I walked in,

Charles was presenting at the time.

And then when I walked in,

he made some Charles statement,

you know,

to me about my quads being dominant.

The way I waddled when I walked because of the quad,

Charles being Charles, right?

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