388: Lessons That Go Beyond The Battlfield. With Jamie Cochran, Echelon Front COO.

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Management, History, Business

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🗓️ 31 May 2023

⏱️ 233 minutes

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Jamie Cochran joined Leif Babin and Jocko Willink as the first employee at Echelon Front in 2014. She quickly expanded her initial role as Director of Operations and was named Chief Operating Officer in early 2021. After earning her degree in Business Marketing and Communications, Jamie served in leadership positions in several organizations to include Glacier Bay, a boutique hedge fund as the Client Relations Director; San Diego State University as a Programs Director; and Tiffany & Company as a Visual Creative Director. Here at Echelon Front, she leads a diverse team that oversees all business operations and events. Her team also coordinates Echelon Front engagements across the globe, ensuring a world-class client experience. Jamie embraces the mindset of Extreme Ownership and implements it across all aspects of her business and life. As a speaker and Leadership Instructor, she makes the connection between the combat leadership principles of Extreme Ownership and how she implements them in her life as a business leader, woman, mother of three, and wife of a former Navy SEAL.

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0:00.0	This is Jockel Podcast number 388 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening.
0:07.0	General Mukayama told me that Colonel Hackworth never did things for personal gain.
0:15.0	He always did things for the unit and for the soldiers.
0:21.0	For the soldiers.
0:24.0	That is the underlying theme that permeates about face.
0:29.0	And it is the underlying theme that stuck with me as a leader.
0:34.0	But people's strengths are often also their weaknesses.
0:39.0	And perhaps doing things for the soldiers was Colonel Hackworth's undoing.
0:45.0	In his interview with Issues and Answers, when Howard Tucker asked him if he'd become too emotionally involved in Vietnam,
0:53.0	he responded, one couldn't have spent the number of years I've spent in Vietnam without becoming emotionally involved.
1:02.0	One couldn't see the number of young studs die or be terribly wounded without becoming emotionally involved.
1:10.0	I just have seen the American nation spend so much of its wonderful, great young men in this country.
1:18.0	I've seen our national wealth being drained away.
1:23.0	I see the nation being split apart and almost being ripped a sunder because of this war.
1:32.0	And I am wondering to what end it is all going to lead to.
1:41.0	So that's from the forward that I wrote for the book about face by Colonel David Hackworth.
1:47.0	And that idea that he instilled in me of caring about his soldiers, caring about my people first and foremost.
2:02.0	That's where he's all about.
2:05.0	He dedicated the book to all the doughboys, the ground pounders, the grunts, the American infantrymen, past, present, and especially future.
2:14.0	And I wrote in that forward for about face that the lessons that he learned and passed on in his book, I had used in combat and I had passed them on as well.
2:30.0	Not only to the seals replacing me, but I passed them on to soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines at units throughout the country and around the world.
2:38.0	But his lessons went beyond that.
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