I'm finding that the lines are blurring between peacetime and wartime now because things change so much.

That's Kat Cole, CEO of AG1.

So I have found over the years, my leadership has evolved to have a more always-on intensity that would be reflective

of what used to be called wartime CEO, but is an always-on intensity.

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the

fastest growing private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've

learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's

most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this

podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

I sat down with Cat Cole to discuss how staying obsessively close to the customer can unlock hidden growth potential, how to balance wartime intensity with long-term cultural sustainability, and why asking better questions unlocks faster, more relevant innovation.

The reality is you kind of know the ten things you could and should be doing,

but other things are taking precedent.

So if you just give yourself the discipline and the expectation to do one of those things,

each week, I get that years' one of those things each week.

I get that years worth of weeks, things done that maybe I would have never done or I would have not done as well.

So it makes me an absolute beast in leadership and in business.

That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney Podcasts.

Before we begin today's episode, I want to remind you that we aren't beholden to any sponsors or run any ads on this podcast.

This allows us to present all of our episodes raw and unfiltered. I'm not going to push any made-to-order meal services on you or try to save you any money on your car insurance. That being said, I have one small request. If you receive any value from this podcast, please give it a five-star review. Pay the fee so we can keep this podcast free. All right, Kat, welcome thanks for having me so excited to have you here because last november you were our mystery speaking at the

game changes summit and absolutely crushed it so just thank you looking forward to having you on

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