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All right, David, thanks for coming, man. Yeah, thanks for having me incredibly huge fan of your work bro

uh i just watched the most the most recent one i watched was the uh the saskwatch movie which is

incredible we'll talk about it cool um but uh just right before we started we were talking about

the operation odessa movie yeah one of the most insane documentaries ever.

I was surprised because when I was doing some background research on you and I saw that, I was like, no shit.

I'm like, that was one of my top top 10 movies I've probably ever seen.

So why don't you explain that one real quick for people?

How did you get introduced to that one? Yeah, so Operation Odessa was directed by a really good

friend of mine, a longtime colleague, Tiller Russell. And he'd been working on that story for

about a year trying to get access to this Russian gangster named Ludwig Feinberg, aka Tarzan,

because Tiller and I had worked on a show together that actually I think never actually made it to air

that was about undercover agents, okay? And there was this one undercover agent that we interviewed

that was like the DEA's top Russian mob guy.

And off camera, Tiller asked him, okay, like, what's the craziest case that you ever worked?

And this guy was like, bar none, the first case I ever worked.

And he told us the story of Operation Odessa, which was that this Russian mobster Tarzan got connected with a Colombian

trafficker named Juan Almeida and a Cuban spy known by Tony Yester.

And this was right after the fall of the Soviet Union.

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