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4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

#388: Can I Live Like Heaven Is Real? With Philip De Courcy

4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Jennifer Rothschild

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

When you picture Heaven, what comes to mind? Harps, halos, pearly gates, and endless singing? If that's all Heaven is, it can seem quite disconnected from our lives today. But fortunately, Scripture paints a far richer and more relevant picture.

In this conversation, Pastor Philip De Courcy invites you to rethink everything you assume about eternity. Drawing deeply from God's Word, Philip answers big questions like…

What is Heaven—really? 
Where do believers go when they die?
What will we do in Heaven?
Why do even nonbelievers feel a longing for eternity?

Philip also touches on a few difficult topics we often wonder about, such as the reality of judgment, degrees of reward, and the resurrection of our bodies.

But most importantly, Philip will help you see how a clear, biblical understanding of Heaven can completely transform the way you live right now. 

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0:00.0

Our aspiration should be heaven. A man was asked one day, do you expect to get to heaven? He said, I already live there. And there's that sense that I've got to have heaven on my mind. Heaven can't wait. It's not just a destination, which it is. We started to broadcast. It's a place. Right. But it's an orientation.

0:21.6

It's a mindset.

0:23.6

And as a Christian, I've got to bring that mindset to everything ought to do.

0:30.6

It's an aspiration.

0:31.6

It's a longing.

0:33.6

It should shape my thinking.

0:35.6

It should affect the way I think about money, right?

0:39.5

Because my treasure is in heaven.

0:41.5

It should affect the way I pray because we're told to pray your kingdom come.

0:46.2

It should affect the way I sorrow and suffer because my suffering is not to be compared

0:53.0

to the glory that awaits me.

0:58.8

Sometimes when we think of heaven, we might imagine, you know, like chubby cherubs and pearly gates and glowing halos,

1:07.7

and endless, endless, endless singing.

1:13.9

But if that is all that heaven really is, what hope and relevance does it even have for us today?

1:17.1

Well, fortunately, a biblical view of eternity

1:20.6

can give us far more, way more.

1:24.1

So today's guest, author and pastor Philip DeCorsi, is going to reveal the impact that a

1:30.8

heavenly mindset can have. On your everyday right now life, you are going to hear engaging

1:38.0

stories with, by the way, the most lovely Irish accent. You're going to get theological insights and, best of all,

1:46.9

you are going to get a deep knowledge of scripture.

1:50.1

So let's get a very clear understanding of our inheritance so that we can live the hope of

1:56.5

heaven right now.

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