#387 Jason Flom with Eduardo Dumbrique and John Klene

Wrongful Conviction

Lava for Good Podcasts

True Crime

4.6 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

On June 28, 1997, 25-year-old member of the Lil Watts gang, Antonio Alarcon, was killed in a drive-by shooting in Hawthorne, California, by a rival gang, Lawndale 13. In exchange for release on unrelated charges, Santo “Payaso” Alvarez deflected attention for the Alarcon shooting toward fellow Lawndale 13 members Eduardo Dumbrique and John Klene, when he knew who the actual shooter was. Witness Daniel Curiel testified that after he was not able to make an identification in a photo lineup, Sergeant Doral Riggs pointed to the photos of Eduardo and John, convincing him to make the ID. However, Eduardo and John's alibis were corroborated by many friends and neighbors. Additionally, the actual shooter reached out to Eduardo’s family to confess to the murder. Regardless of the alibis, the confession, and the lack of physical or forensic evidence, Eduardo and John were convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

In this updated episode, Jason Flom checks in with Eduardo and John at the 2023 Innocence Network Conference to hear what they've been up to since their episode aired.

To learn more and get involved, please visit:

https://www.pjlawcenter.org/page/2364325-home

http://www.innocencematters.org/

https://www.instagram.com/johnklene_free/

Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.

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0:37.8	of no return. In 2017 a black woman named Devon Gray killed her white boyfriend John Vance.
0:45.3	She says it was self-defense and he was incredibly abusive. But then she took a blind plea
0:50.3	for manslaughter and got 15 years. From lemon out of media this is blind plea.
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1:18.5	I'm Katie. And I'm Eves. And on on theme we tell stories about black stories.
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1:37.2	UN me both. On this show I'll be talking to people I admire about one of my favorite subjects
1:43.5	getting things done. We'll hear from folks in positions of power like Democratic leader
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2:02.2	you get your podcasts. We first told you the story of Eduardo Dumbrique and John Cleaney in July
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