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The Ultimate Health Podcast

387: Gary Taubes - Are Carbs Making You Fat?

The Ultimate Health Podcast

Jesse Chappus

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4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Gary Taubes (@garytaubes) is an investigative science and health journalist and co-founder of the non-profit Nutrition Science Initiative. He is the author of The Case Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It, and Good Calories, Bad Calories, which was published as The Diet Delusion in the UK.

Gary just release a new book at the end of 2020 titled The Case for Keto: Rethinking Weight Control and the Science and Practice of Low-Carb/High-Fat Eating.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • Gary studying physics in college and due to his weight realized his dreams of being an astronaut wouldn’t happen
  • Why low-fat diets became popular
  • The start of Gary’s journalism career doing investigative reporting
  • Gary's fascination with bad science
  • If we can’t trust science, who do we go to for information about health and wellness?
  • The case for keto making people healthier
  • The ketogenic diet defined
  • The history of ketogenic diets
  • A carb restricted diet is a high-fat diet
  • Stop being afraid of fat
  • Gary limits starches, grains, and sugar in his diet
  • When your partner isn’t on board with the same dietary philosophy
  • Eating the foods we were programmed to think would kill us
  • How low-carb diets affect cholesterol and do you need a statin?
  • Being one of the drivers of the low-carb revolution
  • Obesity is an insulin signalling disorder
  • Fat is the one nutrient that doesn’t stimulate insulin
  • Sex hormones play a huge role in obesity
  • Conventional nutrition wisdom is feeding us the wrong information
  • Our parents’ generation was taught “If you don’t want to be fat, you had to eat carbs.”
  • The obesity prevalence has tripled since 1980
  • What is cephalic phase secretion?
  • The misinterpretation that obesity is caused by eating
  • Experimenting with intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating
  • Do you have a carbohydrate addiction?
  • You are not confined to a diet, you are adhering to being healthy

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Related links:

Gary Taubes - The Case For Keto (book)

Gary Taubes' website

Follow Gary Taubes on Facebook and Twitter

Gary Taubes - The Case Against Sugar (book)

Gary Taubes - Why We Get Fat (book)

Gary Taubes - Good Calories, Bad Calories (book)

Gary Taubes - Bad Science (book)

Gary Taubes (articles)

Dr. Robert C. Atkins (books)

Arthur Agatston - South Beach (books)

Michael Eades - Protein Power (book)

The New Sugar Busters! (book)

Virta Health

Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - The Physiology Of Taste (book)

Herman Taller - Calories Don’t Count (book)

Dean Ornish (books)

Michael Pollan (books)

Rosalyn Yalow and Solomon Berson

Aubrey Gordon - What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat (book)

Jane Brody - Good Food (book)

Roxane Gay - Hunger (book)

Dr. Jason Fung (books)

Listen to Dr. Jason Fung previously on TUHP (episodes #369 and #380)

Related episodes:

353: Dr. Satchin Panda – Time-Restricted Eating (TRE) & Managing Your Light Exposure

291: Dr. Joseph Mercola – KetoFast • Near-Infrared Saunas • Stop Eating Before Bed

280: Dr. Josh Axe – Keto Diet • Treating Cancer With Food • Collagen Is Essential

273: Dr. David Perlmutter – Grain Brain • Cholesterol Is Your Friend • What Is Keto Cycling?

126: Jimmy Moore – The Ketogenic Diet & The Health Benefits Of Being In Ketosis • Fasting 101

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Coming up on the Ultimate Health Podcast.

0:02.6

If you pay attention to the biochemistry and the metabolism, science,

0:07.6

and the endocrinology, the science of hormones,

0:10.7

if you want to get the fat out of your fat tissue, if you want to lose weight, you've got to minimize insulin.

0:15.0

You have to have this negative signal of insulin deficiency.

0:19.0

Like I said, the world is full of people when they do that.

0:22.0

Like what happened to me when I said I lost 25

0:24.1

pounds in six weeks? It's now I completely understand that. It's like throwing a switch

0:30.5

on your

0:35.0

on your fat tissue and instead of accumulating it, like a ratchet wrench, instead of going in the direction of accumulation every day,

0:38.0

suddenly you're going in the opposite direction.

0:40.0

And it sounds like a diet book, but it's just, and the reason I wrote this book,

0:45.2

the case for he knows to explain to people, this is why it should work.

0:49.6

This is why it seems to work.

0:52.0

And clearly the one's full of people for whom it did work.

0:55.7

So it's an argument for physicians to try and understand it so they can help their patients

1:01.2

and for patients to experiment with it and try to understand

1:04.8

themselves. Hello and welcome to the Ultimate Health Podcast episode

1:14.0

387. I'm Jesse Chappas and I'm here to take your health to the next level.

1:18.4

Each week I'll bring you up conversations with health and wellness leaders

1:22.1

from around the world.

1:23.6

And this week I'm speaking with Gary Taubes.

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