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The New Evangelicals Podcast

386. Iran and America Part 1: We Gave Them Their Nuclear Program

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.6936 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Donate to ⁠⁠⁠⁠"Sins of Empathy"⁠⁠⁠ In this episode, Tim and Kevin Carnahan delve into the complex geopolitical landscape involving Iran, Israel, and the United States. They explore the historical context of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, the Iranian Revolution, and the rise of the Islamic Republic. Kevin's Author Page⁠ Kevin on TikTok: ⁠@kevincarnahan2 Highlights 05:26 The Role of the United States in Iran's Politics 11:25 The Rise of the Ayatollah and Shia Governance 17:29 The Impact of the Iraq War on Iran's Power 42:32 The Nuclear Dilemma: Iran's Intentions 57:40 Escalation: Israel and Iran's Ongoing Conflict 01:09:10 The Potential for Wider War: Analyzing the Risks ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:45.0

Yeah. Hey, what's up, friends.

0:58.3

Okay, we are doing a special two-part episode because like you, I was watching the news this past Saturday when America dropped bombs on Iran. Yep, I saw it too.

1:03.6

I freaked out too. And I was thinking to myself, how did we get here? And so we're going to do a two-part episode on the podcast this week. We're releasing it right away. The first one is this

1:09.6

episode with Kevin Carnahan. I'll unpack that

1:11.5

in a minute. And the second one is going to be with special guest Diana Butler Bass. And really,

1:15.6

in my opinion, friends, there are two layers to this situation that we have to unpack. The first is

1:20.7

just how did we get here? On a purely political foreign relations side, how did we get to this point? Why did we just bomb Iran? Why was Israel

1:31.2

launching missiles into Iran? And what's the connection between all three of these countries? So that's

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