Traveling overseas with small children certainly comes with its own set of challenges.

You can't always push everyone in your family to slog through yet another castle or museum

when they'd rather be out running around or taken a nap.

Coming up in the hour ahead, the author of Jet With Kids

explains why taking her young son with her to Italy

provided an instant welcome wherever they went.

They greeted my son and they wanted to hold him and you don't get that

without kids. Two experts in frequent travel with kids share their road-tested

advice for managing an overseas vacation with small children.

The author of Family on the Loose explains why she makes family travel a priority.

We take our kids traveling when they're very young, not so that they remember it, but we take them so that they can have this family experience

and start to gain an appreciation that things are different in other cultures.

Plus we open the phones for listener reports on the benefits of off-season adventures.

Make the world feel like home the hour ahead.

It's travel with Rick Steve's.

By the age of 10, Anya Klauer's son has already traveled to 32 countries and been all around the world.

Ashley Steele started taking her kids on the road when they were just a few weeks old.

How do they make packing, long flights, and adjusting to a multi-country itinerary work, even with a toddler in tow?

Anya Klauer has written, Jet with Kids, and Ashley Steele and her husband Bill have co-authored family on the loose.

They join us right now on Travel with Rick Steves to help other parents learn how to have guilt-free

fun with the entire family, pretty much anywhere in the world.

Anya and Ashley, welcome.

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