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Doing things that you need to do yourself and that all that comes down to being hands on,

running, you know, running hand tools, using hand tools, using power tools.

It's all an experience, turning it on and using something. Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, a regular discussion with building

industry professionals. This is Senior editor, Patrick McComb.

Today I'm joined by my former shop teacher, Roy Horn. You can find previous podcasts and

check out the show notes at findhombuilding.com slash podcast. You can leave feedback and ask

questions there too. Mr. Horn, you've been telling me to call you Roy. That's

very difficult for me, but I'm going to try to do that from now on. Please do. It is a pleasure

to have you on the show, and it's a delight to see you. It's been a long time. Well, thank you. Yes,

it's nice to be here or see you.

Can you tell me when you retired from being a teacher? I'm not sure I know.

And then what did you do? What have you been doing since then?

Well, I retired in 1997.

But what I did then was I continued to work for the school as a maintenance department.

You did a lot of the carpentry projects, right, the respective buildings would need.

Yes. Any time we have mostly summer work and then anytime they had that problem during the school year,

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