#385 Jason Flom with Al Cleveland
Wrongful Conviction
Lava for Good Podcasts
4.6 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 24 August 2023
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
In Lorain, OH, a notorious informant father and son duo traded false information for $2k, wrongfully ensnaring 4 young men in the criminal legal system - one of whom was budding hip hop star, artist, and author, Al Cleveland.
In this updated episode, Jason Flom catches up with Al to discuss the great non-profit work he is doing today to support individuals who are just coming home from prison, in addition to his continued work as an artist.
To learn more and get involved, visit:
https://www.clevecostudios.com/
https://www.instagram.com/alfredcleveland3/?hl=en
https://www.facebook.com/alfred.cleveland.73
Center For Employment Opportunities: https://www.ceoworks.org/
Wrongful Conviction is a production of Lava for Good™ Podcasts in association with Signal Co. No1.
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| 0:00.0 | Sometimes the pop culture we love just teens hits differently in retrospect. |
| 0:03.8 | Maybe it's a tabloid story we couldn't get enough of or an illicit student-teacher relationship |
| 0:08.6 | on our favorite show. We're Suzy Banna-Karim and Jessica Bennett, |
| 0:12.0 | posts of the new podcast in retrospect, where each week we'll revisit a cultural moment from |
| 0:17.1 | the past that shaped us and probably you to try to understand what it taught us about the world |
| 0:21.7 | and our place in it. You're the first person that I've talked to about this for years and years. |
| 0:25.7 | Listen to In retrospect on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. |
| 0:32.1 | I'm Liz Flock. I want to tell you a story about how generations of trauma can lead to a point |
| 0:37.8 | of no return. In 2017 a black woman named Devon Gray killed her white boyfriend John Vance. |
| 0:45.3 | She says it was self-defense and he was incredibly abusive. But then she took a blind plea |
| 0:50.3 | for manslaughter and got 15 years. From lemon out of media, this is blind plea. |
| 0:57.7 | Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Out of the shadows is a podcast on America's |
| 1:04.0 | immigration system told through the eyes of our Latino community. I didn't understand how |
| 1:10.0 | difficult life was going to be. Being an adult and a person. I mean we seem a doctor in that |
| 1:13.8 | age of 14. I'm Patty Rodriguez. And I'm Eric Galindo. Follow us as we tell the incredible |
| 1:20.1 | true story of a group of young people who took on the system and changed the course of history. |
| 1:26.3 | Listen to out of the shadows dreamers on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:50.4 | We initially released out Cleveland story in May 2021. But before we get to that we had a chance |
| 2:10.8 | to sit down with the man at the 2023 Innocence Network Conference in Phoenix, Arizona. |
| 2:15.6 | It's a gathering of the Innocence community from all across the country and I look forward to |
| 2:20.1 | it so much every year. It's so great to see what our old friends are doing. And Al Cleveland has |
| 2:26.1 | always been an artist at heart and in practice. And before his wrongful conviction, he did want to |
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