I'm Emily P. Freeman and welcome to The Next Right Thing. You're listening to episode

384. This is a podcast about making decisions, but also about making a life. If you struggle

with decision fatigue, chronic hesitation, or if you just need a few minutes away from the

constant stream of information, and the sometimes delightful but distracting

hum of entertainment, you're in the right place for discerning your next right thing.

I'm an author, a spiritual director, and an occasional workshop leader.

I live in North Carolina with my family, and through my work, I've helped thousands of

spiritually thoughtful people overcome decision fatigue so that they can discern

their next right thing in faith work in life. In our last episode, we talked about a saying we hear a lot,

trust the process. What rises up in us when we hear that could be, um, does the process know that we're trusting it? And so in that episode

383, I share a series of questions to help you know if a process is worth your trust. Today,

I'm sharing another phrase we might hear often, protect your peace. Now, I like that phrase, and I also wonder sometimes

if we take it a little bit too far. Does our peace need protecting? When and to what extent? How can we

know when our next right thing is to protect our peace and when instead we might need to extend or even

step into discomfort on purpose.

That's today's episode.

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A highlight of the episode and the main purpose of her appearance

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conversation, Travis and Taylor shared insights into the relationship, including the story of how

they met, what they like to do in their downtime, all about

her breadmaking, details about their first date. Fun fact that we all now know is that,

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