This is self-work and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford. At self-work we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them.

Whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment.

Eight years ago I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you

who might already be knowledgeable about mental health treatment, but also to those of you

who might say you'd never jarken the door of a therapist and yet you are here I'll answer your

questions while I invite you to take a few minutes for your own self-work. Given the kind of prejudice there has been against hypnosis that people either

think it's dangerous or it's silly it's a stupid stage show trick so know, 88,000 people died of opioid overdoses last year in the United States.

We have not yet succeeded in killing anybody with hypnosis.

You know, it doesn't happen.

Welcome to this week's edition of Self Work.

The interview today is with Dr. David Spegel.

He's a Stanford psychiatrist in one of the world's most respected and published experts in the field of hypnosis.

I thought this would be really interesting for you all.

I haven't talked about hypnosis here, but it's a technique that I have used. But if the word

hypnosis makes you think a magicians or Vegas you know a lot of people think

that. But it's not a side show it's actually the oldest form of Western

psychotherapy and a powerful evidence-based treatment for

numerous disorders like chronic pain insomnia, eating disorders, addiction, and Dr. Speekel himself

has treated over 7,000 patients in his career. And what I was so impressed about, I'm not

sure how old Dr. Spiegel is, but he said, I couldn't see any more patients. I knew that my

time limit was up and there's just not very many

hymnotherapists out there. So he created this self-hypnosis app called Reveri,

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