Wired.com presents the Geeks Guide to the Galaxy. And here is your host, David Barr Kurtly.

Hello, and welcome to episode 384 of Geeks Guide to the Galaxy.

Our guest today are Patricia Marcocia and Maziar Gattery, the director and producer of the new

documentary film The Rise of Jordan Peterson.

Peterson is a Canadian psychology professor whose YouTube lectures and self-help book Twelve

Rules for Life have attracted a wide audience.

However, Peterson is also an extremely polarizing figure who first rose to prominence for his

opposition to Bill C-16. Peterson argued that certain provisions of the bill, which require

Canadians to refer to transgender and non-binary people by their preferred pronouns, represented

a dangerous expansion of the government's power to

regulate free speech. Peterson has since weighed in on a wide range of controversial topics,

and his frequent attacks on political correctness have made him a hero of many on the right,

which has only increased suspicion of him on the left. The documentary of the rise of Jordan

Peterson charts his rise to fame, explores his home life,

and gives voice to some of his many critics. And now here's our interview with Patricia

Marcocia and Maziar Gattery. All right, so we're here with Patricia Marcocia and

Maziar Gattery. Welcome to the show. Hello, thanks for having us. Thank you.

Okay, so Maziar, you told me in an email that you're both huge science fiction fans?

So let's start off with you and have you just tell us about how you first got interested in science fiction.

Sure.

It all started with Next Generation, actually.

My older brother always watched it.

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