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So, Ian, I was up a mountain last Saturday in the... Climb every mountain. High on it all with a lonely

goatherd. I wasn't wearing my wimple, much as that is one of my absolutely favourite films when I first

saw it. What nuns wear you full? Oh is that? I thought it's a habit.

Yeah. The habit is their dress and the wimple is their head is their head gear. Oh right. Okay.

Yeah. When I first saw that film at the age of about 10 or 11, I wanted to be a nun.

I think I've said this before because I thought it meant I'd get to marry Christopher

Plummer. How different your life has become. Because what was it you just said when the

recording went wrong? Was it shit-funk, white bollocks or something? Of course it wasn't, because

no such words, would it? No. Bigger assholes, I think it was.

That was it, yes.

Technical term.

Yeah, well, I suspect the recording went wrong because listeners, despite the fact that it's halfway through the day,

when we were supposed to be starting this podcast, I had to send Ian a message. Ian,

have you seen my message? At which point after a minute or two I get the response,

oh sorry, I was asleep, all spelled wrong. Just coming. Yes, because I can't see. I'm sorry

that my... Don't play that card with me.

I'm not playing any card at all, it's true.

Does that make you more tired?

It doesn't make me more tired, but getting up at 5.15 in the morning makes me tired.

As you well know, when I get back from Good Morning Britain, I have a little sleep.

Right.

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