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Hurdle with Emily Abbate

382. Fail Forward, Lead Better: 4X Olympian Jordan Larson On The Power Of A Goldfish Mindset, All Things LOVB & The Importance Of Empathy In Sport & Life

Hurdle with Emily Abbate

iHeartPodcasts

Health & Fitness

51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily's sitting down with Olympic Gold Medalist, professional volleyball player, founding athlete for League One Volleyball, and co-owner of Love Nebraska, Jordan Larson. A lot has happened since our first chat in 2021. Jordan dives deep into the personal and professional work that has allowed her to maintain elite performance over an impressive 16+ season career. "The Governor" (Jordan's nickname) opens up about the immense internal work required to evolve from being a quiet "leader by action" to a vocal and empathetic captain for her team.

Jordan also shares her experience navigating a difficult personal period, including a divorce, and how she learned to separate her self-worth from her on-court performance. It's a candid conversation about finding inner peace, the importance of "failing fast" to learn, and her excitement for growing the future of women’s volleyball in the United States through ventures like Love Nebraska and League One Volleyball. This is a masterclass in resilience, leadership, and the power of continual evolution.

In This Episode:

  • 16+ Seasons of Elite Performance: Jordan shares what still excites her about lacing up and how she remains a student of the sport after almost two decades.
  • The Evolution of Leadership: We discuss the shift from being a "leader by action" to a vocal, empathetic captain who builds deeper connections with her teammates.
  • Beyond the White Lines: Why true success and team cohesion require knowing the person behind the athlete, not just their on-court skill.
  • The Hardest Hurdle: Jordan opens up about the immense internal work required to find peace and process her divorce, and how she used that time to define her self-worth outside of volleyball.
  • Failing Fast: The necessity of taking risks in practice and the importance of a "goldfish mindset" for quick failure and recovery.
  • Love Nebraska and League One Volleyball: Her passion for growing the sport domestically and the importance of creating opportunities for female athletes to thrive at home.
  • Advice to Her Younger Self: The importance of being able to sit in the hard, uncomfortable feelings instead of running from them.

QUOTABLE MOMENTS

🥇 On Success, Self-Worth, and Longevity

  • “How do I help others around me believe that they are unstoppable?”
  • “There’s moments of time in my career that I burnout was real and I was like maybe this is time to step away.”
  • “I think the fastest you fail, the more you learn.”

🧘 On Inner Peace and Healing

  • “I really started building myself up. Lots of therapy, and I feel like today I’m in a place of just loving myself and finding inner peace and learning that that is actually the true happiness.”
  • “I think I would go back to tell myself that like it’s gonna hurt, but that doesn’t mean that that’s wrong. That even in the pain and the hurt, it’s okay to sit in it.”

🏐 On Leadership and Team Dynamics

  • “It’s not just about what’s happening between the white lines. It’s about how I get to know my teammates, how I’m showing up for them.”

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0:00.0

How do I help others around me believe that they are unstoppable?

0:19.3

What's up, everyone?

0:20.4

Emily Abadi here. You are listening to another episode of Hurtle,

0:25.1

a podcast featuring the mindset secrets and true stories of the most inspiring women in sports and wellness,

0:31.3

empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life, and of course, conquer your own hurdles. This week, I am

0:39.4

sitting down with Jordan Larson. She's a woman whose journey in sport is a masterclass in

0:43.9

resilience, leadership, and the power of continual evolution. She's a professional volleyball

0:50.0

player, a founding athlete for League One volleyball, and the co-owner of Love, Nebraska.

0:56.3

So much has happened since we first spoke for the show in 2021. And today, we dive into what it

1:01.0

takes to maintain elite performance over an impressive career that spanned 16 plus seasons.

1:08.6

Jordan also talks to me about how she approaches each and every new challenge

1:12.2

with a beginner's mindset and opens up about the immense internal work required to evolve

1:17.2

from being a leader by action to a vocal empathetic captain. Plus, how she learned to separate

1:23.2

herself worth from her on-court performance, especially through a period of personal struggle.

1:29.6

We also talk all things league one volleyball and love Nebraska and what it truly means to be a

1:34.4

powerful woman in sports today. Jordan's willingness to be open and honest about the emotional

1:40.0

journey of an athlete is truly what makes this conversation so compelling. Her mindset truly

1:45.9

blows my mind. You can tell she's been in this for a long time and she knows a thing or two

1:52.1

about how to conquer hurdles both on and off the court. Make sure you're following along with

1:57.2

hurdle over on social. It's at hurdle podcast. You can also check out IHartwoman sports over at IHartwoman Sports and me over at Emily Abadi. Listen to Hurtle with

2:06.6

Emily Abadi on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And with

2:12.3

that, let's get into it. Let's get to Hurdling.

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