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🗓️ 2 June 2025
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0:29.8 | You're listening to the new Evangelicals Talks. |
0:46.6 | I'm Tim, the host of this segment. |
0:49.0 | Join us every Monday as we talk to all different kinds of people at the intersection |
0:52.9 | of theology, politics, |
0:54.5 | and culture, helping you navigate a better path forward in your faith. |
1:03.7 | Hello, friends. Welcome back to the podcast. Happy Monday. Also, if my audio sounds weird, |
1:09.2 | it's because I'm recording on my phone because I am out of |
1:11.9 | town at the moment. So on this episode, I interviewed Molly Worthen. She wrote a book called |
1:17.8 | Spellbound, How Charismist Shaped American History from the Puritans to Donald Trump. This is a fascinating |
1:24.0 | conversation because it talks about an angle of the rise of Trump in a way that I don't |
1:29.3 | think we've ever talked about on the show before and that is charisma. What is charisma and what |
1:33.9 | makes people want to follow leaders both good and bad? So I think you're going to really enjoy |
1:38.4 | this conversation. Molly's a very unique guest with a very unique story. I'm not going to spoil it. I'll let her say it on the |
1:45.9 | episode and then you can make your own judgment. But either way, I'm so, so, so happy that she came on. |
1:51.9 | Friends, as always, thank you so much for being here at Means the World. Hey, we are currently in |
1:56.7 | the middle of planning. What we're calling is TNE 2.0. I just got back from LA meeting with my team |
2:02.2 | to think about the future of the organization, our mission, and what we're going to be doing. |
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