I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim, per usual. I do hope that everyone listening is doing fantastic.

But before we get into anything, Tim, I don't want to bury the lead here.

How are you today, sir?

I am doing great.

Please don't call me, sir.

Geez.

I am really excited to speak with our friend and guest today, Sarah Kaleen, Sarah Kaleen Investigations. You can find out what

she's up to at kaleen Investigations.com. And Lance, she's got a new podcast. It's called

Why Can't We Talk About Amanda's Mom. It is about the horrific murder of Renee Bergeron in Alabama in 1993. And this new podcast is fantastic.

It really is. And Sarah, like you said, is a friend of ours. She's also an investigator.

And she's producing this podcast along with ID. And they're doing such a great job. It really

plays out. It feels like in real time. And he get in this conversation

with Sarah a really unique peek behind the curtain. Like you said, this involves the brutal murder

of a young woman in 1993, but it is so horrific. And I really don't know exactly how Sarah is able

to compartmentalize. Maybe it's just the 25 plus years she's had in law enforcement,

but she is so good at investigating and separating her emotions from the investigation,

and you hear it throughout the episodes that are live now. Yeah, you do. And you will hear it

in this conversation as well, because we get pretty dark and graphic in this conversation.

So that is a trigger warning to our listeners.

This is probably one of the more disturbing conversations that we've had recently.

So I just want to give you a fair warning there.

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