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#380 - “Secret Link!” - Ancient Rome Expert on Vatican Egypt Tie, Cleopatra & Odyssey | Toldinstone

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6908 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 183 minutes

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SPONSORS: 1) BLUECHEW: Get 10% off your first month of BlueChew Gold with code JULIAN at BlueChew.com. Visit https://BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information. 2) MOOD: MOOD: Get 20% off your first order of federally legal, hemp-derived cannabis gummies, flower, and more at https://mood.com with promo code JULIAN. JOIN PATREON FOR EARLY UNCENSORED EPISODE RELEASES: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey WATCH PREVIOUS EPISODES w/ TOLDINSTONE: Episode 251: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wjoqdFMl75spLxkO8x4vr?si=849fdfd7cf0a4c15 Episode 252: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZkNpepvo3jBVEnRK16cNk?si=88cb295a88cd465a (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Garrett Ryan ("Toldinstone") is an Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece Historian, PhD, Author & YouTuber. You can find him here:  @toldinstone  GARRETT's LINKS: YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@toldinstone WEBSITE: https://toldinstone.com/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 0:00 – Intro 01:26 – PhD life, Gladiator vs Gladiator II, Roman espionage, Sertorius, Arminius, Salamis 11:40 – Late Empire armies, Germans, Hadrian’s Wall, Persian power, standing army costs 23:58 – Alexander the Great, Macedonian cavalry, speed of conquest, Persian collapse 34:01 – Roman taxes, cities as culture, multicultural empire, governing at scale 47:52 – Byzantine beacons, Pantheon engineering, pirates, Roman shipping 01:03:08 – Rome, WWII damage, Mussolini, churches, St. Peter’s legacy 01:15:20 – The Vatican, Egypt Links Rome in Britain, founding London 01:29:06 – Caesar in Britain & Cleopatra 01:37:37 – Eastern vs Western Empire, Pompey, conquest strategy 01:49:05 – Greek influence on Rome, Homer, The Odyssey & The Iliad 01:58:22 – Origins of Greek myth, Rosetta Stone, canon of the gods 02:10:58 – Greek gods, afterlife, mystery cults, Christianity parallels 02:21:52 – Greek philosophy, Plato, Archimedes, science 02:33:26 – Daily life in Greece, slavery, Sparta 02:43:54 – Spartan warfare, fitness, Olympic roots 02:50:43 – Rome’s fall, Germanic tribes, decay from within, America vs Rome 03:01:17 – Toldinstone's Work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 380 - Garrett Ryan Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Our idea of the Roman Empire really comes down to a couple moments.

0:31.8

A large part of why Octavian, such Augustus, manages to establish the Roman Empire,

0:35.7

is everyone's just sick of this constant civil war, and he brings peace. That is his propaganda. I'm the one who ends the wars. The Romans admire the Greeks, culturally. Herodotus, the father of history. Had a famous quote where he says, The Greeks received their gods from Homer and Hesiod. But when you have a text like the Iliad that everyone knows, that everyone pictures Zeus through Homer's text, this all-powerful sky god. You don't want to live like Zeus unless you're a sociopath. If you don't respect him, he'll get you. In the Christian world, they have this idea of guilt. God cares about who you are more than what you've done. Three gods couldn't care less about that. They care about getting their due, which is above all, the smoke of sacrifices and the prayers of mortals. how many gods they have? Over 13 Olympian gods. And who were the Spartans? The Spartans are trained, they're professionals, but they weren't like the Superman that we see with the eight-packs in 300. Oh, they weren't. They were probably very effective. They won some good battles. And actually, Thermopylae is not the most impressive battle. It was the next year, the Tia.

1:27.5

All the Spartans came out and defeated the core of the Persian army.

1:30.5

But it was a weird city.

1:31.8

There are literally hundreds of Roman cities scattered around Turkey.

1:35.4

There's a spot near on Tali there.

1:37.2

Hey guys, if you're not following me on Spotify, please hit that follow button and leave a five-star

1:41.4

review.

1:42.4

They're both a huge-chelp.

1:43.4

Thank you. at the end. It's... All right. I think we're on air now. You were just saying seven years in school after college get the PhD. It is too long objectively. And again, there is no job at the end of that. You do all that work. Come out, you know, starry eye. Like, hey, guys. Hey, world. Give me a job. It's like, hey, no. Oh, my God. At what point do you realize, like, in that process that there is no job waiting at the end of the tunnel? Is it like a year in or three years in or like right at the end? They're like, fuck you. It's kind of a slow and building, fuck you, I would say. You know, like, you realize pretty early, like, no, I won't be the one who, you know, who doesn't get the job. You know, I'm going to be different. I'm better than the rest. Like, no, there's no job for you either.

2:38.0

Well. You realize pretty early, like, no, I won't be the one who, you know, who doesn't get the job. You know, I'm going to be different.

2:35.2

I'm better than the rest.

2:36.5

Like, no, there's no job for you either.

2:49.2

Well, you know what? You have figured it out, my friend, because you went out, you write your own things, you create your own things. You give these amazing tours around the world, too. It feels like every time I look up, you're posting about some tour.

2:50.5

I'm pretty desperate to people, yeah.

2:54.0

No, no, it's great because you're all over.

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