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🗓️ 17 August 2023
⏱️ 101 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello everyone, watching and listening. Today I'm speaking to author, entrepreneur and |
0:20.4 | 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. We discuss his ongoing campaign, the long-growing |
0:29.3 | hunger in the general population for depth in political discussion, the dire need, the necessity |
0:35.2 | for a renewed American vision and how Vivek plans to strip the Washington administrative |
0:41.2 | agencies of their unconstitutional powers. All right, Mr. Ramaswamy, we said about four months ago, |
0:48.9 | which was the last time we talked that we would talk in about four months and here it is, |
0:54.5 | I was very interested after contemplating our last conversation in staying in touch with you |
1:01.6 | at least in part to get more insight into what it's actually like to be on the campaign trail. |
1:07.2 | And so now you've been hard at it, how long it's going to be? How long have you actually been |
1:11.8 | campaigning now? Well, it was last week of February that we began. So it's been just a little bit |
1:17.7 | over four months, close to five months. Right, right. So what have you, what have you learned? |
1:24.5 | Well, one of the things I've learned is actually one of the more surprising |
1:29.2 | expectations is that the political consultant class at the start of this campaign had a concern |
1:35.4 | about my style that I think they still continue to have today, which is the advice they give me |
1:42.8 | is to dumb it down, that this is no longer the era of writing books. As you know, I mean, you've |
1:50.8 | written more prolifically than I have, but the last few years I've been in a stage of life where |
1:55.6 | I've been writing books, examining issues with depth. I think the threats to liberty are complex |
2:00.4 | and I've been explaining them. And so when they said is, when you need to get used to the |
2:04.1 | political mindset, people don't have that kind of attention span. They need to be distilled into |
2:09.7 | bullet points, dumb it down when you need to or nobody's going to listen to you. |
2:15.6 | What I have found is that I have been at my worst when I'm doing that. And I've been at my best |
2:22.0 | when I'm more or less ignoring that advice. And that's less about me, Dr. Peterson. That's actually |
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