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Hi, I'm Mike Rowe and I got nothing against celebrities.

In fact, I just interviewed Rob Lowe and Jason Alexander, and they were terrific, but usually

I interview people you've never heard of.

The plumber, who makes $250 grand a year, the first responders who risk their lives to save

complete and total strangers, and the mad scientists who are about to change the world with a better mouse trap.

Those are the kinds of people I usually interview on the way I heard it, and you're officially invited to give it a listen, wherever you listen to podcast.

Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I hope you're spending it with people that care about you and not people you feel obligated to be around.

I promise I'm only one bourbon in today.

I have a quick public service announcement before we get started.

This is directed at fellow podcasters who started six months ago or longer.

A lot of you have noticed that your download numbers have fallen since the summer. That is

due to the new download standard put in place by the IAB, otherwise known as the Interactive

Advertising Bureau. Podcasting is still in its infancy going through many growing pains, and hosting companies, advertisers have been squabbling

over the definition of a download. With the inception of the IAB, they now have their answer

and count our stats appropriately. Many podcasters have seen their numbers fall drastically, some up to half

of their download numbers. Before the IAB standard, hosting companies had free reign of what

they counted as a download, a stream, and if a listener had paused in the middle of a podcast and then

hit start later on in the day,

that could be counted as two downloads as opposed to one.

There are many other loopholes they found to fudge the numbers, but that's just one that I know of off the top of my head.

You can imagine that this impacted longer episodes. So when you

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