I'm going to be. At 2.30 a.m. a man's body hits the sidewalk outside the Statler Hotel followed by a shower of broken glass.

The doorman shouts that someone has jumped and the night manager rushes out to find a man

around 40 lying in his underwear blood pooling around him.

13 stories up and open windows curd and flapped through the broken glass.

Despite his injuries, the man was still alive choking on blood and trying desperately to speak. A few minutes later he took

his final breath. What he was trying to say remains a mystery but we know one thing for

sure. It was about the CIA.

Welcome to the Red Thread, where it's conspiracy time.

I mean, I think it's a conspiracy.

I don't actually know.

MK Ultra, I'm pretty sure it's all confirmed at this point.

Like every, there's been reports that have come out about it,

the government themselves confirmed that MK Ultra was a, you know, legitimate thing.

So does that even really count as a conspiracy at this point?

I don't think so, no, I think it's legit. It's a, it's a conspiracy what they did with it because like,

yeah, we know it existed, it's how much it existed is the question.

Right. So some parts of I can certainly make a conspiratorial.

But no it is it is a thing that existed people were called conspiracy

theorists or for believing it and then when the reports were and then it was

opened up it's like oh well you know we we did we indicated we like to play

pal around you know like to kill a few

journalists every now that just for fun zies occasionally to put it into

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