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Freakonomics, M.D.

38. Pfizer’s CEO on the Big Gamble That Brought Us the COVID Vaccine

Freakonomics, M.D.

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture, Science

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Bapu Jena talks with Albert Bourla about his unusual path to the top, developing a life-saving vaccine in record time, and the second-hardest decision he made along the way.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Like most of us, Dr. Albert Borla remembers the first time he heard about a novel coronavirus

0:11.3

that was spreading in China.

0:13.9

The first thing that came to my mind is I have thousands of people working for us in

0:18.9

China.

0:19.9

I had manufacturing sites, I had research centers in China and we were just monitoring

0:24.0

the situation but with an eye that this is only time.

0:27.6

But as the coronavirus began its march around the world in early 2020, it became clear

0:33.0

that the disease it caused COVID-19 would be impossible to contain.

0:38.3

In February, things started to getting more and more visible from Asia, things went

0:44.8

into Europe and went straight to Italy and I started worrying about it and I traveled

0:53.8

there a week after and that is when I realized things are going to be very bad.

1:02.9

My name is Albert Borla, the CEO of Pfizer since 2019.

1:07.7

As he traveled home from a cancelled conference in Greece, Albert Borla was already forming

1:12.6

a plan.

1:13.6

I decided to take the plane and go back immediately and on the plane I realized that that's affecting

1:19.9

the whole world.

1:21.2

So I was having time to reflect what we need to do and what is our role.

1:27.2

From the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is Freakonomics MD.

1:30.6

I'm Bob Gujena, I'm a medical doctor and I'm also an economist.

1:34.6

Today you'll hear my conversation with someone who in a way also straddles these two worlds

1:40.4

and a few other ones too.

1:42.9

When I was elected as CEO, the first statement that I made to import the members was only

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