#38 - James Lindsay
The Eric Metaxas Show
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4.7 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 17 January 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Today we cover a wide-ranging conversation with James Lindsay on the woke right, post liberal power politics, and the fight over the future of MAGA, plus a candid debate about religious liberty, the founders, and what happens when states stop respecting national cohesion. Sponsor: BlockTrustIRA — Smarter Crypto Investing for Your Retirement: https://metaxascrypto.com
TIMESTAMPS(0:00) Intro(4:02) James Lindsay Joins (9:15) Did Tucker Change The Right? (13:46) Who Is Capturing The GOP? (19:26) Founders And Religious Liberty (24:23) Is Christian Nationalism Theocracy? (30:19) Why Did Adams Fear Catholicism? (35:27) Is The Common Good A Trap? (40:42) Are Blue States Ready To Rebel? (44:00) Could Secession Become Normal?
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, folks. Welcome on the program. In a couple of minutes, I'm talking to one of the great minds of our time, James Lindsay. If you're unfamiliar with him, you're in for a treat. If you're familiar with him, turns out you're also in for a treat. I get to talk to him about all kinds of stuff. |
| 0:22.7 | He is the man who popularized the term woke right. |
| 0:27.4 | And I remember one year ago, one year ago, him talking about this and me not getting it. |
| 0:38.2 | And he was speaking prophetically |
| 0:40.7 | because what he was talking about, |
| 0:44.6 | the emergence of, |
| 0:46.8 | you know, |
| 0:47.4 | strange voices claiming to be |
| 0:50.3 | from within the conservative movement, |
| 0:52.3 | he was absolutely right. |
| 0:53.8 | And I didn't see it coming. |
| 0:55.2 | And so we're going to talk about that and get into what's behind it, because I think a lot of |
| 1:03.9 | people are confused as to what's behind it. So we won't, I think it's important that we understand or try to understand what it is that's actually going on. |
| 1:13.4 | So we're talking to James Lindsay in a couple of moments. |
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