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Because of the journey, because we had losses, we had setbacks, financially it was a nightmare.

When he won that it was, it was everything because that was his dream and it's what he promised his dad.

I'll never be able to forgive and just get on with it, do I mean.

But yeah, she's a reason, she's a reason why I've never believed in myself. They were older than me, and you'd walk past a minute,

like, Packy-Gorm and this, like, you just get abused black bastard, this, but I used to be scared just going past there because I just got it all the time. Hello and welcome to this week's boxing life stories with me Trist Dixon

delighted say this week I'm joined by trainer manager ex-fighter Dave Colwell

and Sky Sports pundit Dave Colwell, oh, in Sky Sports, Pundit, Dave Colwell. I popped up to see David in his house in, well,

near Sheffield a couple of weeks ago. It on the back of Anthony Fowler losing and

Jordan Gill losing their recent fights so Dave was very interested about those

those guys and their prospects moving forwards.

We also talked about his time as a fighter, fighting out at the Ingle, Jim in Sheffield.

We talked about his relationship with Johnny Nelson, talks about his relationships away from

boxing with his mother and his father, which was really interesting and insightful, and just generally

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