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Now, I've just arrived in my hotel room in Cardiff.

Borodar, Ian. And I'm m hotel room in Cardiff. Borodar Ian.

And I'm munching on a Welsh cake.

Oh, is that delicious?

They left them in the room for me, which is nice.

That's what comes to being a Hilton honours member, you see.

I'm using up me three points for this.

So very tasty it is two, though they're kind of, frankly, they're poor man's Eccles cakes, aren't they?

Don't you think? I love Eccles cakes.

You're not going to say that to bloody Adam Price tomorrow, are you?

The whole thing, I told you, he's a bit, he's a bit feisty. The whole thing can kick off. I'll be having to drag you apart. And with my bad back, that's not going to work, is it? You see, you've just used the word feisty about a man, which you always constantly complain about when I use it. I use it about women. So it is possible to use it about a man as you just proved.

I was making, I was deliberately trying to redress the oppressive, misogynistic, patriarchal

society in which we live.

Didn't really work, did it?

I think, I'm doing it bit by bit.

Now, you're sounding a lot more cheerful than you did this morning on Good Morning Britain.

Are you going to tell everybody that I had a bit of a...

Everybody thinks you're the grizzler, but basically this morning I had a bit of a cry, didn't I?

You did. I'm sitting there thinking, what the fuck's going on?

It's not like me.

I've got this bad, can I, I'll just go for a bit of sympathy.

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