379) Hi'ilei Hobart: Ambient sovereignty and the question of temperature control
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 2 November 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
“When it comes to refrigeration, so many of us have just come to accept that that’s how things are done. But I think in the food sovereignty conversation, those dependencies can sometimes be overlooked when we’re talking about what it means to become sovereign.”
In this episode, we welcome Hiʻilei Julia Kawehipuaakahaopulani Hobart (Kanaka Maoli), who is Assistant Professor of Native and Indigenous Studies at Yale University. An interdisciplinary scholar, she researches and teaches on issues of settler colonialism, environment, and Indigenous sovereignty. Her first book, Cooling the Tropics: Ice, Indigeneity, and Hawaiian Refreshment is a recipient of the press’s Scholars of Color First Book Award.
Some of the topics we explore in this conversation include the symbolism of ice and shaved ice in Hawai’i, the establishment of the cold chain as an integral part of the global food system, provocations about the anthropocentric desire to control ambient temperatures, and more.
(The musical offering featured in this episode Tear Down The Wall by Forest Veil. The episode-inspired artwork is by Haruka Aoki.)
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| 1:33.1 | When they conducted studies, when they write scientists, it's always a thing, |
| 1:37.8 | when they conduct the studies on temperature preference for drinks, |
| 1:42.1 | they find that it actually changed across cultural contexts. |
| 1:46.6 | And so, for example, Europeans who are accustomed to drinking room temperature tap water, actually preferred room temperature tap water, even if they were super hot. |
| 1:53.8 | And in the U.S., where people have become accustomed to having their glasses filled with ice and |
| 1:59.1 | drinking ice water, would prefer it that way. |
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