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BiggerPockets Money Podcast

379: Finance Friday: Stock-Based Compensation Explained and Tax Traps to Avoid

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

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Investing, Education, Business

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

For the entry-level worker, employee stock options may seem completely foreign. But for most tech workers, this is commonplace and can be highly lucrative if understood correctly. In short, employee stock options, employee stock purchase plans (ESPPs), and restricted stock units (RSUs) all give an employee far more upside (and downside) than a traditional salary. As a result, you’re trading steady take-home pay for the potential to own company stock sharesthat could be valued at even more when you decide to sell. But is this gamble ever worth it?

JT Longino, long-time tech worker, has spent most of his life tinkering away as an engineer at some of the biggest companies in computing. He’s no stranger to the world of stock-based compensation and knows it can be worth the lack of salary if done correctly. In this episode, JT gives a complete overview of what stock-based compensation means, the three different types of stock you’ll be offered, and how this type of payout compares to a regular salary.

He also goes in-depth on timing the sale of your stocks, the tax traps that could cost you thousands, and how to create a plan that lets you profit when getting paid in shares. If you ever foresee yourself working at a startup, tech company, or publicly-traded conglomerate, you MUST know what these types of compensation mean. Or, you’ll risk losing the real reward of a stock-based salary.


In This Episode We Cover

Stock-based compensation explained and why companies would rather pay shares than a salary

ESPPs, RSUs, stock options, and the different ways you could get paid at a tech company

When to sell your company shares and tax tips that can stop you from owning a big IRS bill

Who is eligible to be paid in stock, and whether or not entry-level workers can get access

The stock-payout schedule and when employees can expect to receive full compensation for years of company loyalty

JT’s stock-selling strategy and whether he chooses to sell or hold on to company stock

And So Much More!


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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast, Finance Friday edition, where we talk to my friend JT about how he handles his tech company compensation.

0:09.0

The three most common kinds of stock-based compensation you might see. One is the Employee Stock Purchase Plan. The most common form that you'll see is the restricted stock unit or the RSU.

0:21.0

And then some kinds of companies for some kinds of employees will also offer in options package, where those employees will get the option to purchase shares of stock at some particular price.

0:34.0

Hello, hello, hello, my name is Mindy Jensen and with me as always is my RSU really smart and unique co-hosts got-trets.

0:42.0

Thank you Mindy, that was a... I'll definitely exercise the option to be called really smart and unique.

0:48.0

That was good! Very just on the ball. Scott and I are here to make financial independence less scary, less just for somebody else.

0:59.0

To introduce you to every money story because we truly believe financial freedom is attainable for everyone, no matter when or where you're starting.

1:06.0

That's right, whether you want to retire early and travel the world, go on to make big-time investments in assets like real estate, start your own business or participate in the success of your business through an employee stock purchase plan option or restricted stock purchase plan.

1:17.0

We'll help you reach your financial goals and get money out of the way so that you can launch yourself towards your dreams.

1:23.0

Scott, I think that this disclaimer is most important on this particular episode.

1:30.0

The contents of this podcast are informational in nature and are not legal or tax advice.

1:34.0

And neither Scott nor I nor bigger pockets is engaged in the provision of legal tax or any other advice.

1:39.0

You should seek your own advice from professional advisors, including lawyers and accountants regarding the legal tax and financial implications of any financial decision you contemplate.

1:47.0

Also, JT is not telling you how you should handle your stock availability. He's just sharing how he handles his.

1:57.0

Okay, now we are talking to my friend JT who works at a large tech company and gets stock options, restricted stock units and the potential for cash as part of his compensation package is overall compensation package.

2:17.0

So we are talking to him today about specifically what those mean and how he handles his distributions before we start today's show. Let's take a quick break.

2:29.0

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2:33.0

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2:43.0

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3:20.0

Let us know if we can use your name so we can give credit where credit is due. Today we're chatting with my friend JT who works at a big tech company. JT is here to share how he handles his RSUs.

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