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Hello and welcome to part two of this conversation with writer and journalist Clover Stroud.

As we discuss her third memoir, The Red of My Blood, it's a brutal, bold and brilliant artistic

piece of life writing about family, survival, death, and grief. I really felt like I lived this

book as I read it, and it really goes deep. Clover invites the reader into the experience,

and you really do go alongside it with her. So I hope you enjoy this episode and that you go and

grab a copy of The Red of My Blood, which is just incredible, and just a reminder that if you're

jumping in now without listening to part one, you might want to go back and listen to part one

of this interview first. So here is the conversation with Clover Stroud.

I know that I am having to work at all the time to remind myself as well that when the dark days

just keep going, you know, just keep going, just keep going, you're like a kind of a ball rolling

forward, and then it will, that something will change again. It's mad how much we change, isn't it?

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