Is this a self-defeating papacy? Dr. Larry Chapp is next.

Hello and welcome to Focus the Cathacancer's podcast for living, understanding and defending

your Catholic faith. I'm Sy Kelly at your host and been wanting to have Dr. Larry Chapp on the

program. Lots of folks actually recommend him all the time as a possible great guest for focus.

He's a retired professor of theology. He taught for 20 years at the sales university in Pennsylvania.

And now he and his wife own and manage the Dorothy Day Catholic worker farm in Harvey Lakes,

Pennsylvania. You can find his writing at the Catholic World Report and on his own podcast,

just look up Dr. Larry Chapp and you'll find his writing. And he wrote a recent piece,

almost all Catholic writers took a stab at it, but a response to the Pope's recent Motu

on the use of the Latin Mass. But Dr. Chapp, we thought, it took a little bit of a different angle.

And his angle is connected to promoting a vision of the church as kind of consonant with the

vision that Dorothy Day and Peter Moran, the founders of the Catholic worker movement,

had. And Dr. Chapp suggests that pursuing a vision like theirs might actually be more productive

in achieving the goals that Pope Francis wants to achieve than the current path,

including this Motu program. So we thought we'd ask him, can you explain that to us?

What might be a more productive way for Pope Francis to get done? What do you want us to get done?

Dr. Larry Chapp, thank you very much for taking the time to be with us on Catholic

Cancer's Focus. We appreciate you doing the video too. It's not always easy to set up the video,

but we appreciate you making the effort. Okay, so the Pope had a recent Motu probe

rule, a letter on the traditional Latin Mass. And then as soon as it came out, seemingly every

Catholic on earth with a computer post that a response to it, you posted one on your blog,

Gaudium at Spes 22. And I thought it did work that none of the others seemed to do.

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