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Tech Policy Podcast

377: AI and Wicked Problems

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.845 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Arnold Kling discusses his recent article in Reason magazine, “Not Even Artificial Intelligence Can Make Central Planning Work.” Topics include: - Why central planning is impossible - The importance of prices - What is AI good for? - Will AI know us better than we know ourselves? - What markets will AI disrupt? - Social media and tribal gang-sign flashing - The myopia of the revanchist right Links: Not Even Artificial Intelligence Can Make Central Planning Work (https://tinyurl.com/ukwyj2du) David Brin’s Transparent Society Revisited (https://tinyurl.com/yh9cs3s4) Mir McLuhanism (https://tinyurl.com/3w3twpsx) The Revanchist Right (https://tinyurl.com/m48map9z) Tech Policy Podcast 368: How the Government Gets Your Data (https://tinyurl.com/2r6kwvw2)

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the tech policy podcast.

0:26.6

I'm Corbyn Barthold.

0:29.1

Not even artificial intelligence can make central planning work.

0:34.9

That is the bottom line in an article published in the June issue of Reason magazine

0:40.9

on AI and so-called Wicked Problems. The article is by the economist and writer Arnold Kling.

0:50.0

Arnold is my guest today, and I look forward to talking to him about his article and the thinking

0:55.4

behind it. Spoiler alert, Frederick Hayek remains undefeated. Arnold is a man of profound learning.

1:05.4

He is an explosion of interesting thoughts, and I want to hear as many of them as I can today. So rather than

1:13.6

devoting any more time to an introduction, I'm going to dive right in. Arnold, welcome to the show.

1:20.7

Thanks.

1:22.3

AI has done a lot of impressive stuff lately, but to get right to your thesis, you don't think it can now

1:31.5

or probably will ever crack the problem of economic central planning. Why?

1:39.6

Well, let's just define central planning and contrast it with markets, which is very decentralized.

1:45.6

So let's say some, you know, shock comes along to the economy or the sort of, you know, like with the pandemic,

1:55.8

people either locking themselves down or being locked down.

2:00.7

How's the economy going to adapt to that?

2:03.9

And the decentralized way is that prices adjust and people react to prices and things that where

2:12.5

the supply has gone way down, people see that the price goes up and they consume less and so and they find

2:21.0

substitutes. So there's all all sorts of adaptation that takes place with a central centralized

2:27.1

system you wouldn't have prices. You would have some expert, let's say in Washington DC,

2:33.3

say okay, now the following people are going to shift from this industry to that industry,

2:39.8

and the following people are going to buy less of this and more of that.

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