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The Talk Show With John Gruber

376: ‘One True HIG’, With Neil Jhaveri

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Neil Jhaveri, founder and lead developer of Mimestream, the terrific new native Mac email client for Gmail, joins the show to talk about email, Mac apps, and indie software development.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Neil Javari, welcome to the show.

0:03.4

What a big week for you.

0:05.4

Yeah, thank you, John.

0:06.4

Thank you, John.

0:07.2

It's been an absolutely crazy week for us,

0:10.0

just kind of getting finally after a couple years

0:14.1

of development, MimeStream 1.0.

0:16.5

It is out to the world.

0:19.2

I am super duper excited about this.

0:23.5

And my enthusiasm, well, number one,

0:26.6

I'll have you introduce the app.

0:28.2

What is MimeStream?

0:29.8

So MimeStream is a native Mac OS email client

0:36.6

designed specifically for Gmail.

0:39.6

And it is a little different from other email clients

0:43.6

that most people have used in the past,

0:45.4

because it specifically uses the Gmail API

0:49.6

to integrate very, very deeply with Gmail.

0:52.5

Most other email clients are using the decades-old iMac

0:56.2

protocol, which certainly is fantastic and has its purposes.

0:59.7

But Gmail has kind of a different way of doing a lot of the basics.

1:05.6

And by using the Gmail API, we can really

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