Marshall here, welcome back to the Realignment.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to the show.

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I guess today is Ben Terrace, he is a writer in the Washington Post style section, focusing

on national politics, and he's the author of a new book, The Big Break, The Gamblers,

Party Animals, and Trouble Leavers trying to win in Washington while America loses its

mind.

I've been pumped to have Ben on the show ever since I first saw this book announced earlier

in the year, especially because of the fact that it really focuses on a topic that is

near and dear to this podcast heart, which is the idea that DC and the broader American

political scene changed after 2016, and it takes that idea and focuses on individuals

and institutions across the left-right and center that tried to make a series of gambles

and bets in the policy category or even the political category based on that idea.

So you're going to see people everywhere from the Sam Bankman-Freeze political scene to

young staffers who are involved in Dianne Fine-Sans office to progressives who also are trying

to play the inside game as well in an opposition to this sort of outside the boatway strategy

that Bernie Sanders took.

This, once again, for me, is interesting because in my way, my response to the Trump era was

to create a podcast.

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