Can a Christian get woke? Noelle Marring is next.

Hello and welcome to Focus the Catholic Answers Podcast for Living,

Understanding and Defending your Catholic faith. I'm Sy Kelly at your host. And among the things

you might feel you have to defend your Catholic faith against these days is what was once called

political, correct language. Now it's woke language. There's mixing in all the different things,

like critical race theory and whatnot and queer theory. And more and more it seems like

those who espouse what used to be just kind of basic simple common everyday Christian values

are on the outs and you shouldn't be saying those things and you shouldn't be thinking those

things. And there's a lot of people who will tell you what you should be saying and what you should

be thinking. And if that doesn't seem quite right to you, there's a reason why it doesn't seem

quite right to you. And our guest this hour, Noelle Marring, has a brand new book called

Awake, Not Woke, a Christian response to the cult of progressive ideology. And she explains

why a Christian might balk at the idea of getting woke.

Noelle Marring, thank you very much for being with us.

Thanks so much for having me. Just before we started recording today, I was talking with Darren,

the producer about the fact that it's not a, this is not a huge academic tone difficult to read.

But you get to, it cuts like a knife through what I think is a general sense of bafflement. How

did we get here and what is going on? Is that what your intention was? That was completely my

intention. I'm glad that came across. I didn't want it to be an inaccessible thick academic book. I

really wanted to be something that could just speak to anyone at any level. And because that's

the complaint I kept hearing is that people felt confused and felt like something wasn't quite

right, but didn't know how to put their finger on it. So I really want to just add clarity

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