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Nazi so sweet. I'm Jason Horton. I'm Rebecca Leeb. And this is

Ghost Town. Gummy bears are perhaps one of the most ubiquitous candies, and in my experience, has a devoted, devoted following.

So I have to ask you, Jason, what is your stance on gummy bears?

I love gummy bears. I love gummy candies.

You're a gummy man. I'm a good. That's, I mean, I love all candy. I eat candy all the time. It's really gross. Right now I'm eating, right now, I've switched from Mike and Ikes to runts. Yeah. Do you know runs? Oh, I know runts. Oh, I know. It's hard to find runts at the store. That's not in a... No, runts are there like little...

No, I know, but there's like run clusters and there's run ropes. Oh, okay. These are... Are you thinking of nerds? Yes. No, runts are the tiny fruits. Oh, they're tiny fruits. They're actually really hard to find, actually, to order them. Seriously, they, the production, the Wonka production on runts has, I guess,

slow down.

Yeah.

So, yes, I'm a huge fan of gummy fruit flavored.

I mean, I love chocolate, but my go-to is like something like gummy bears.

Married to, to gummies.

Yes.

Cheat on gummies with a chocolate. Or a little tiny bowl of runts. Little tiny? No. I mean, in the still life that Runts would be, they're just small. They're cute and small, but you eat a ton of them. I'm getting them in boxes of 12. That's how I'm rolling. From Amazon? From where? Yeah, yeah, if I usually find like, yeah, someone from Amazon. Or no, actually, or eBay. Okay, eBay runs. Yeah, I get my eBay runs. Incredible. Of course, gummies are very popular. The gummy market did an estimated $21.4 billion in sales and is projected to reach $52.4 billion by

2030. You are a case in point. But few people know the real story behind these chunky, colorful,

toothsome little bears until now. Today on Ghost Town, the dark, secret-ish history of the gummy bear. First, it's important to know

how gummy bears are made. Very simply put, gelatin candy is made by drawing collagen proteins out of

animal products, mostly bones, but also skin, tendons, and connective tissues, and cooking them

down to a powder. That's why they're not vegan. A lot of people

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