Because if you skip that one piece, oh, logic, that post-enlightenment thing that is, you know, a white construct, da-da-da-da, no, that's the only thing of the four that you can actually test, verify, give counter examples to.

So if you remove that, you have persuasion, but you don't necessarily have truth.

Yeah. but you don't necessarily have truth. Hey friends, welcome to the show.

Today I'm sharing with you an in-studio conversation I had with my friend Phoenix Hayes from

neon faith.com.

We're talking all about how to engage with social media

content without being manipulated or deceived. This episode is brought to you by weheartnutrition.com.

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I am so excited about this episode because if you haven't noticed, the social media landscape

is pretty crazy. I, as I pointed out to Phoenix, many years ago noticed that you had to,

if you made a claim or you made a statement, you had to back it up with facts. Well, today,

people are all over TikTok, all over social media, just making claims and not even having to back

them up with facts. They're using emotional appeals, storytelling, framing. And some of those

things are not bad when they're in their proper place, but what we talk through today is how to assess a

claim, figure out if what the person is saying is true, and to avoid being emotionally

manipulated to putting your feelings over facts, and also how to make a claim and how to make a

case for something without you yourself manipulating others.

Such an important episode. Here's my friend Phoenix Hayes.

Phoenix, tell us what have you been up to. You've been busy, and I know you have a heart for young

people. So tell us what you're up to these days. These days, I am working for a ministry I founded called Neon,

and it's focused on next-gen ministry. So specifically, we're focused on creating free resources,

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