The following is a conversation with Manolas Gallis, his fifth time on this podcast.

He's a professor at MIT and head of the MIT Computational Biology Group.

He's one of the greatest living scientists in the world, but he's also a humble,

kind, caring human being that I have the greatest of honors and pleasures of being able to call a friend.

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and it's new pod three mattress, which I think of as a teleportation device into a land of dreams,

a place where the mind goes to escape the space time physics of this reality of the waking world.

Anything is possible in the place of dreams. The darkness that lurks in the young gain shadow

is possible. The hope to try and symbolize this delight at the end of the tunnel is possible.

All of it is possible. It's all up to you. I've kind of somebody that likes both the good and

the bad of dreaming. There's a cleansing aspect of a bad dream. You wake up freaking out a little

bit, but then you realize how awesome this life is that whatever happened in the dream world is not real.

It's kind of dress rehearsal for a bad event that happens in reality, but it doesn't. It's like

in a video game, you get to save, do a dangerous thing, screw it up, and then you get to load,

and try again. That's what a dream is. Anyway, I love dreaming, I love sleeping, I love naps,

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