372: Clear Your Space
The Next Right Thing
Emily P. Freeman
4.8 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
Today I'm exploring one of the things I crave that has nothing to do with food: a desire for space - body, mind, and soul. Here are some ways clearing space is helping me in my decision-making life. Listen in.
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- The Lazy Genius episode 371: How to Neutralize the Sunday Scaries
- Everything Belongs by Richard Rohr
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Emily P. Freeman and welcome to The Next Right Thing. You're listening to Episode 372. |
| 0:08.1 | This is a podcast about making decisions, but also about making a life. If you struggle with |
| 0:13.5 | decision fatigue, chronic hesitation, or if you just need a few minutes away from the constant |
| 0:18.1 | stream of information and the sometimes delightful but distracting |
| 0:21.6 | hum of entertainment, you're in the right place for discerning your next right thing. I'm an author, |
| 0:27.2 | a spiritual director, and an occasional workshop leader. I live in North Carolina with my family, |
| 0:32.3 | and through my work, I've helped thousands of spiritually thoughtful people overcome decision |
| 0:37.2 | fatigue so that |
| 0:38.3 | they can discern their next right thing in faith, work, and life. |
| 0:43.0 | Today I'm exploring one of the things I crave that has nothing to do with food, a desire |
| 0:49.9 | for space, body, mind, and soul. |
| 0:53.3 | Here are some ways clearing space is helping me in my decision-making life. |
| 0:58.2 | Listen in. |
| 1:08.9 | So I've been seeing those ads on Instagram lately asking me if I feel dissatisfied with my fashion |
| 1:14.3 | and telling me if the answer is yes, then the problem is likely that I'm not dressing for my archetype, |
| 1:21.8 | which I have no idea what that means. I've also been fed quizzes to see where in the world I'm supposed to live based on my |
| 1:29.8 | personality, something to do with latitude or the stars or the tides or something I do not know. |
| 1:38.0 | Now, before you think that I'm blaming Instagram for these ads, I do realize the algorithm is not |
| 1:42.1 | telling me about Instagram. It's telling me about me. |
| 1:45.2 | Clearly, it is picking up on the fact that I have been looking at things having to do with clothes |
| 1:50.3 | and fashion and other things having to do with beautiful places and cities in the world, |
| 1:55.6 | really any kind of content that will serve as a counterweight to the current stream of bad news in the headlines. By the way, |
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